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Exploring the Dark Side of Crowdsourcing with Ragnar Danneskjold of Subvert & Profit

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Derek Powazek interviews Ragnar Danneskjold of Subvert & Profit

Ragnar Danneskjold does not exist. The name was dreamed up by Ayn Rand for a rebellious pirate in her seminal book, "Atlas Shrugged." In the book, he's part criminal, part intellectual - a man who does bad things for good reasons.

Now the name has been taken by a 19-year-old American. As the creator of Subvert and Profit, a site that makes a business out of gaming social media site Digg for paying advertisers, there are a lot of people who'd like to know his real name.

Like Rand's pirate, Danneskjold talks revolution, but is not afraid of getting his hands dirty. But is he really a Robin Hood for Web 2.0 or just a crowdhacking profiteer? Derek Powazek conducted this interview for AssignmentZero to find out.

UPDATE: After completing this interview, the Digg account I'd used to test Subvert & Profit was disabled by Digg. The arms race continues.

Derek Powazek: What's your elevator pitch for Subvert and Profit?

Ragnar Danneskjold: Subvert and Profit fills the niche market for 'darker' crowdsourced actions. Beginning by operating a black market for votes on social bookmarking services, S&P will bootstrap itself towards operating a full-fledged crowdsourcing marketplace for clandestine actions on the Internet. Striving to maintain our allure and underground appeal, we seek to represent the fundamentally subversive nature of the Internet.

5/21/07

Where We Stand

We're two weeks out from deadline. Let's take a look at where we stand.

First, a look at the latest developments in our reporting efforts:
-- Muhammed Saleem has turned in an in-depth interview with NewsTrust's Fabrice Florin.
-- We've received an unexpected gift: a video interview by netzoo with Newsvine's Mike Davidson (with a follow-up in the works)
-- Mincedmedia has interviewed Tom Drapeau. Some outside circumstances have pushed back the filing date, but it's expected soon.
-- A few days ago, I sent a questionnaire to some frequent contributors on social news sites, asking them to explain why they do what the do and to predict the future of crowdsourcing. I'll post the results May 21 or 22. Their responses should provide us with some quotes and anecdotes for the story.
-- Derek Powazek is trying to gather information from the shadowy figures behind SubvertandProfit.com. Could make a great sidebar.

Attempts to set up an interview with Digg's Jay Adelson haven't panned out -- yet. But we haven't given up trying. I'm still holding out hope, because the group came up with some great questions.

I just exchanged some e-mails with Patrick Crawford, and he's ready to start writing. Read through the reporting that's been submitted so far. Where should the story go? What trends or ideas grab you? See any holes in the reporting? Chime in now.


It's Time to Step Up Our Reporting

There have been some good developments in the past week. One person has expressed interest in writing the big story -- we're still in the talking phase, but I'm hopeful -- and I've gotten a few bites from people interesting in looking at individual social news sites.

Also, several people have written in to talk about their experiences as contributors to NewsTrust. To see what they have to say, check out the reporting that has been submitted so far. I need an outsider to give the site a look, and their submissions provide a couple good jumping-off points. Read through their posts and tell me what you think.

More later. I'm thinking over the submissions to date, and trying to come up with some focal points for the overall story -- things we should do, and things we shouldn't. Got any ideas? Let's hear them.


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